Find all your favorite table games right here at Cache Creek. Choose from more than 100 table games including single deck, double deck and shoe games. The High Limit room offers Blackjack and Baccarat along with a full-service bar and VIP Casino cage. I wanted to go sunday because i knew it would be a $10 min table on sat night. Sure enough the craps table was already going with about 5 people playing and yes $5 min. The sign on the table was '5-500' and nothing else, so i bought in for my 200 BR and asked what the table odds were. The dealer replied that it was 3-4-5.

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California Craps with Cards

The Bone Man recently visited the Cache Creek Casino, North of Oakland and North West of Sacramento off of Highway 16 and provides this review of Craps as played with playing cards.

CACHE CREEK

Two Tables
$5 to $500
Field Pays 2X on 2 and ONLY 2X on 12
Proposition Bets are DOWNTOWN ODDS (example… 2 and 12 pay 30 TO 1)
Table Odds (FREE ODDS) are 3, 4 and 5X Odds and are not posted.
Shuffle Machine located in rack next to STICKMAN.

Shuffle Machine releases TWO CARDS which are placed in RED and BLUE Rectangles, Face down. Then, releases the REMAINDER OF THE DECK.

Dice are thrown by SHOOTER. One BLUE die. and one RED die.

Result Card is turned on COLORED RECTANGLE from HIGHEST NUMBERED DIE.

Colored dice are special dice, one RED and one BLUE, with pips (dots) designed so that there is NO HARDWAY (tie) possible… Always allowing one or the other to total higher than the opposite one.

Cards are pictured to show the RESULT of TWO DICE. 36 card decks. One Blue deck, One Red deck, with each card having two pictures (domino-like), representing the possibility of 36 results of two dice combination.

Cards are shuffled after each roll (card result).

Cards are replaced with new cards every FOUR hours.

Cards are manufactured by GEMACO CARD COMPANY.

Dealer procedures are the same as on any standard craps table for the BASE DEALERS.

Only the STICKMAN procedure differs from a standard craps game as the stickperson has to manage the rotation of the two decks and the placement and turn of the result card.

CONCLUDING OBSERVATIONS

After a brief introduction to this game it seems as though it moves very deliberately and very much like a standard craps game. The only major difference is that the player (s) need to get accustomed to the turn of the RESULT card as paying attention to the result of the DICE is somewhat academic as it has NO effect on TAKE, PAY or PLACE on the table wagers. It is the TURNED CARD that determines the RESULT.

The speed and service factors of the game seem only slightly slower than on a standard craps table.

It was observed and concluded that the tossing of the dice is as much a stalling factor to allow the stickperson to manage the shuffling and rotation of the two card decks and the card turn as it is certainly not the exciting prelude to a RESULT as it is in the standard game.

The Cache Creek Casino and Hotel is a first class facility and rivals many Vegas properties in accommodations and number of table games. The gaming traffic of players was very high and measurable as witnessed on a weekday in the early afternoon.

California Craps as played at Cache Creek is the same game played at the Pala Casino in Southern California..

Cache Creek Craps Table Top

I generally make a few two-way hardway bets early on, just to let the dealers know I am a tipper. I have noticed very little tipping out at Cache Creek, so they really appreciate it. Another thing I have occasionally done is to set a dollar of my odds bet behind a 4 or 10 aside. If it wins, the dealers get it and the $2 payoff attached to it. When I leave, I hand in any singles I have left.
Cheers,
Alan Shank

How do you do this ? I often place less then the maximum odds and would like to be able add a buck or two of odds for the dealer. (if the point is 4,5,9,10. If the point is 6/8, I might want to do something else)Are you allowed to go over 3/4/5 if it's a tip?

Are you allowed to go over 3/4/5 if it's a tip?

No

Cache Creek Craps Table Covers

How do you do this ? I often place less then the maximum odds and would like to be able add a buck or two of odds for the dealer.

Just put the odds down as two stacks next to each other, and mention that the shorter stack is 'for the boys'.

How do you do this ? I often place less then the maximum odds and would like to be able add a buck or two of odds for the dealer.

Just put the odds down as two stacks next to each other, and mention that the shorter stack is 'for the boys'.
Or I just put the tip slightly off-center on the odds. If they ask, I tell them it's theirs. If they don't, I just give it to them after they pay me.

When I'm placing a bet for the three guys/gals or whatever combo is there, they always seem to tell me where they want their bet placed, which is usually the passline. Theoretically if I'm up half of my initial bankroll ($100 is my limit) I'll bet $15 bucks, split three ways of course, and at first I placed $15 in the field, but now I place $5 on the passline and $10 on the odds. I guess they think I'm hosing them if I play the field. I can see them wanting to play the passline odds if the point is 6 or 8 of course. A couple times I've placed a bet in the field and one of the guys will move it to the passline without asking me. I'm not sure if this is a faux pas on their part or what.

The dealers are just like the rest of us, they want to win their bet too. And since the field is a lower percentage bet, the dealers would prefer their bet goes on the pass line.
However, I do think it is poor taste for a dealer to move the bet you made for them.

The dealers are just like the rest of us, they want to win their bet too. And since the field is a lower percentage bet, the dealers would prefer their bet goes on the pass line.

It's more than that. Not only is the line bet more likely to win, if it's a line bet, you're more likely to throw a buck behind it too.
But there's more:
Some casinos will round UP the odds on dealer bets. I.E. $1 on the line, plus $1 odds will pay $1 plus $2 no matter what the number was. Not all casinos do that, but some do. Those that do will also pay 2:1 for $1 dealer place bets. That's one way to beat the 1.41% house advantage. (Hear that Tutti?)

However, I do think it is poor taste for a dealer to move the bet you made for them.

I could not agree more.
But before you put out a field for the dealer, you may want to ask what their preference is, and/or ask what a $1 PL plus $1 odds on a number other than 4/10 would pay.